In "Rhineland Emigrants"......
"Johannes Hord, No. 824,
son of Hans Georg and Sara (Wagemann) Hord at Lambsheim, 1-15-1734 and
emigrated to new land 1738. Father farmer (No. 818-819) Hesse-Darmstadt
and became citizen of Lambsheim 5-7-1696. Became a Pietist and in 1706
was penalized by having to clean town ditches. Sara, 2nd wife, daughter
of Hans Valentin Wagemann (#2050). She became citizen of Lambsheim 12-2-1662
from Hessheim. Died before 1721 and he died after 3rd marriage in 1732.
Source - Testament of 1732 in town archives and other documents."
Link
suspected.
In "Eighteenth Century Emigrants
from the Northern Alsace to America"
by Annette Kunselman Burgert...
Page 517, Northern Alsace,
Herbitzheim = 67260 Sarre-Union...
Tobias Wagemann from Firfeldt,
Wurtemberg on the (ship) Bilander Vernon, 1747, S-H, I: 363 (Wagheman on
list):
European Records:
"Herbitzheim Lutheran KB: Joh. Tobias Wagemann, son of the late Joh. Wilhelm Wageman, formerly citizen in Firfeldt (W-6927 Furfeld) in Wurtemberg m. 10 Apr. 1738 Anna Eva Eisemann, daughter of the late Christian Eisemann, citizen here. They had children:
1) Johan Conrad b. 9 Feb.
1739, bp. 16 Feb. 1739 Sp.: Joh. Conrad Bose, master weaver and citizen
here; Catherine, wife of Johannes Weibel, stockingweaver; Christian Ochy;
Eva Margaretha, wife of Peter Wannemacher, tiler here.
2) Johann Michael b. 26
Jan 1741, bp. 28 Jan 1741 Sp.: Joh. Michael Keppel, citizen and church
censor here; Anna Maria, wife of Jacob Altmann; Johannes Ochy.
3) Johann Gustave b. 12
Dec. 1742, bp. 13 Dec. 1742, died
4) Johann Jacob b. 26 Sept.
1744, bp. 28 Sept. 1744. He died 6 Dec. 1746.
5) Eva Elisabetha b. 24
Jan. 1747, bp. in house Sp.: Nickel Schneider, church censor here; Joh.
Jost, son of Johann Ochy; Anna Eva, wife of Friederich ?; Anna Elisabetha,
daughter of Samuel Witmer.
American Records......
St. Michael's Lutheran KB, Germantown (Philadelphia):
Tobias Wageman and wife Anna
Eva had children:
6) Maria Dorothea bp. 9
Nov. 1749, aged 7 weeks Sp.: Andreas Honedor and Dorothea.
Tobias Wageman and wife Margaretha
had:
7) Margaretha b. 15 Mar.
1755, bp. 13 July 1755 Sp.: Michael Mayer and wife.
{No link proven here. No
link suspected - yet.}
In book from Lambsheim, Rheinpfalz,
Germany, of town citizens,
records available from Lambshrim
City Hall....
"Hans Valentin Wagenmann, married 1652 to Barbara; Dec 2 1663 on City Records of Hessheim, Farmer 1673: 2 horses, mentioned to 1686. Children: Magdalena (magdalena Wagenmann, single, sold half of parents dwelling on Nov 30, 1704 to Hans Georg Hord), and Sara, married to Hans Georg Hord.
Hans Jacob Wagenmann, married,
Marketstreet, 1685, Children, Abraham, married Veronika, and Christmartin."
Connection suspected.
About
this source................
Is Veronika the wife of
Abraham or his married sister??? No end date for this books records, suspect
circa 1705. Later records may include more children?
Need to check civil and church records from Hessheim and Lambsheim. Suspect that Christmartin may be Christian Martin??? Also strongly suspect that Hans Jacob is son of Hans Valentin.
From Lists of "Swiss Emigrants in the Eighteenth Century to the American Colonies"......
"No. 47. From the Parish Illnauw the persons below described left for the so-called new-found land during the last few years; 5. Jacob Wagmann of Rykon, aged 36 years, Dorothea Haffner, his wife, aged 34 years, they left Anno 1743 with three children, the oldest 6 and the youngest 2 years."
"3. Regula Wagmann, aged 30 years, of Rykon, unmarried, left Anno 1743."
"No. 51. List of those people
who went from the Parish of Lindau to the so-called New-found Land.....
1743: Hans Ulrich Wagmann,
of Dagelschwangen, January 2, 1699.
Anna Huber, his wife, In
October 1702.
Children:
Barbara, 12-9-1726,
Heinrich 4-3-1728,
Hans Jacob 4-14-1730,
Anna 1-1-1732,
Hans Casper 11-18-1733,
Margaretha 9-20-1737....
These last were living on a feudal estate in Mur, from whence they emigrated. The first two families (not shown here) went to Carolina, I am told, the last three to Pennsylvania. Lindau, 4-1-1744, Attested, Johann Heinrich Ulrich, Pastor"
1743 - Left Sunday May 5
(from Parish) - 1.) Heinrich Dubendorffer, called Krebser, born March 5,
1702. His wife, Anna Wegmann, from Tagelschwang, born 1703. Married December
19, 1728."
Swiss Mennonites Book by
??
Page 98:
from a letter written on
July 22 1645, old style, "....What followed, therefrom, and how it subsequently
went with those who were imprisoned, can be seen in a subsequent account,
in a marginal note, in connection with Ully Wagman...." and from the book
itself ... "Here again we meet familiar names in Eastern Pennsylvania today:
particularly Hagen, Mulley (or Meiley) and Wagman or Wagaman.
Page 101....
N0. 6 Jacob Bosset (No.
213), Reformed, day-laborer, was received as citizen of Lambsheim on 5-7-1696.
He was a Pietist and in 1706, with other adherents of the sect, was punished
by having to clean town ditches. Emigrated to Pennsylvania on the Ship
Allen in 1729. He married Anna Eva Wagenmann, daughter of Hans Valentin
Wagenmann (No. 2050) who was received as citizen of Lambsheim December
2, 1663, coming from Hessheim, and his wife Barbara. Jacob and Anna Eva
(Wagenmann) Bossert had a daughter Eva Katharina, baptised 4-26-1699. Jacob
Bosserdt (Possart) is listed among the passengers of the Ship Allen, arriving
in Philadelphia Sept. 11, 1729, accompanied by Johannes Possart (under
15), and Susanah, Marilis, and Eve Possart, in that order."
Page 101...
"No. 7 Leonhard Christler
(No. 286)...." notes in parenthesis in this passage "Leonard Christoleer
is listed with 200 acres among those who paid quit rents in Franconia Twp.
Phila. County prior to 1734.... One John Jacob Christler, aged 42, arrived
in Philadelphia on the Ship Harle Sept. 1, 1736, with a Johann Philip Wageman,
aged 23. Were these connected with the Lambsheim families of Christler
and Wagenmann?"
I suspect a connection between Johann Philip and the families at Lambsheim based on these texts.
From the old 1645 letter, it is easy to see where researcher Bill Hall (died in the early 1900's) made the assumption that Hans Ulrich Wageman is the ancestor of Johan Philip Wageman - but there was never any documentation produced to prove that assumption. Hans Ulrich was born in 1620 in Berne,Switzerland, and was a reformed church minister in 1645 in Zurich (I may have the cities backwards,....), according to Hall's research. "Ully" as seen in the letter, was somewhat involved in some sort of reformed (Calvinist?) mischief in 1645 in Switzerland.