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The Soldier who arrived in the "John Barry" No 3 Company to be transferred to Tasmania . sailed from London the 20th February; Portsmouth the 8th March; and the Cape of Good Hope the 28th of May" . It arrived in Sydney Saturday evening 8th* July 1826

DISPOSAL OF PASSENGERS ON THE JOHN BARRY BY STATUS AND DESTINATION

Capt    Lt.    A/S*    Sgt.    Cpl.   Pte     OR*   Women    Children    TOTAL
Arrived Sydney     1     4       1                            84       66          73     230+
Arrived Hobart
(3rd Company)      1     2       -       3       3     50     56       45          42     148
Left in Sydney
(1st Company)      -     2       1       2       1     25     28       21          31      83+
From the article The Royal Veterans in Australia by R. H. Montague, Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society, December 1982, Vol. 68 Pt 3, p240 it quoted "By July 1826, Governor Darling was able to inform the home government that the first division of the Royal Veteran Companies had arrived at Sydney." ... "The second division of the Royal Veteran Companies arrived at Sydney in the ship Marquis of Hastings its members appeared little better disciplined than their predecessors."


(I)JOHN BARRY, arrived Sydney 8 July 1826

The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser of Wednesday 12 July 1826
(page ??) recorded the following under Shipping Intelligence:-

"On Saturday evening last arrived from England, the ship John Barry, Captain Roche. She sailed from London the 20th February; Portsmouth the 8th March; and the Cape of Good Hope the 28th of May. She brings a part of the New South Wales Corps, consisting of Captain Darcy, accompanied by his
lady and infant son; Lieutenant Bell, also accompanied by Misses Bell, and Masters Bell; Lieutenant Collins, Lieutenant Travers, Lieutenant Sweeney, and Assistant Surgeon Gibson, with 84 rank and file, and 66 women and 73 children."

>From Shipping Arrivals and Departures Sydney, 1826-1840, by I.H. Nicholson,
p 11,
Indicates that the John Barry departed for Hobart Town with a detachment of "NSW corps"on "August 5./6/10". It is unclear if she had two attempts to depart or if the "10" is a footnote. This information is, however, is not consistent with the advice provided by William Hunt in his
letter.

>From Shipping Arrivals and Departures - Tasmania 1803-1833, author unknown,
p 118 it has the following entry:-
1826 Vessel Master Whence Cargo, Passengers Owner-Whiterand Remarks H Aug. 18 hkJOHN BARRY, - Peter/J Roach(e)Lon via Syd, 10/8, b, det NSW/Royal Veteran Corps-Aug 26 Ch/28Kship, 520/528, Jn Barry, O-port(s) in India, b P: Capt Cartwight, Beng Arty.

Where H is Hobart Town is port of arrival; from the abbreviations it is unclear what "hk" means; from London via Sydney, Departed Sydney 10 August, b in ballast; det means detachment; it departed Hobart 26 August 1826; Ch means Circular Head (Came into use with the establishment of VDL Co there in 1826, but foreign vessels were generally required to go to Port Dalrymple (George Town) first to obtain clearance. Arrivals & departures are only listed for Circ. Hd when direct to or from Syd or overseas) - I assume "Ch/28" means it departed Circular head on the 28 August for a port in India. There is no abbreviation for K. 520/528 would appear to be the tonnage of the ship; "O" would appear to mean departed for Oyster Bay,including (Great) Swanport and P = Port Dalrymple.


>From this record, it would appear that the John Barry arrived in Hobart on
18 august 1826, directly from Sydney.
In a letter from Gary O'Hagan (32 Williams Street, St. Albans VIC 3021)
of 10 July 1989 he gave me the following:-
"The Colonial Times, (weekly newspaper Hobart Town)
Friday 23rd August 1826.


The John Barry which arrived last Friday (16th August) from Sydney brings down Captain D'Arcy's company of the New South Wales Corps, consisting of a Captain, two Subalterns, three Sergeants, three Corporals and fifty rank and file. To this detachment there are attached forty-five women and forty-two children."
 
>From the letter by William Hunt, which is outlined in section 13 below, he
provided the following account of the period between arriving in Sydney and
arriving in Hobart.

"We were at Sidney three weeks when our company were ordered for this place where we arrived in seventeen days."

This would indicate that the John Barry arrived in Sydney on 8 July 1826,stayed for 21 days and left for Hobart on 29 July, with the voyage taking 17 days and arriving in Hobart on 16 August. With such a long voyage time between Sydney and Hobart, it might suggest that the John Barry called at some other port before Hobart, such as Launceston. William Hunt mentions in his letters that only 11 members of the Royal Veterans were in Hobart in March 1827 and the others were in other parts of the Island.
The initial starting point to develop a passenger list for the John Barry is the Adjutants Monthly Roll of Leiut. Col. Dumaresq Company New South Wales Royal Veterans from 25 June to 25 July 1826. It can only be assumed that they were part of the 84 rank and file mentioned above which arrived on 8 July 1826. It would appear that the remainder went with the John Barry to Hobart in August 1826. This would appear to be the case from the information now available in Table 6 below.

Table 1

MUSTER ROLL FOR 1ST COMPANY RNSWVC, JUNE/JULY 1826, SYDNEY

"Sgt. J B Cunen
Sgt. Wm Hopkinson
Corporal Wm Chater
Pte Thomas Boyd ,  .  Pte James Brindley to 3rd Company 25 July
Pte Mich Duggan
Pte John Elliot
Pte John Gillian
Pte Henry Hart , . Pte John Huling? , . Pte Thomas Holland , . Pte Matthew Howard to 3rd Company 25 July
Pte Thomas King
Pte Edward Lees , . Pte George Ladby?
Pte James Mhan? ,  . Pte John McLravask? , . Pte Samuel Murphy
Pte David Navin , .  Pte Samuel Norma
John Orchard to 3rd Company 25 July
Pte John Pachard?
Pte Patrick Quin
Pte Thomas Richardson
Pte Richard Tine
Pte James Waller , .   Pte Thomas Webb , .   Pte Thomas Wood , .   Pte William Wood"


The Muster for this period of this Roll was taken at Sydney on the 24 day
of July 1826. The Commander of the Company ??? not having as yet arrived
from England

Wm Bell Lieut. Commanding
1st Company
Royal Veterans"

>From the same unit roll for the period 25 July 1826 to 24 August 1826 it
had the following transferring from the 3rd Company

Pte Wm Finn
Pte David McKay
Pte Wm Scott"

This would indicate some exchange of personnel between the first and third
Companies before the third went to Hobart in August.If the arrival information for Hobart is combined with the shipping notice concerning the arrival of the John Barry in Sydney, then we have the following dispersal of the passengers of the John Barry.

Table 2

DISPOSAL OF PASSENGERS ON THE JOHN BARRY BY STATUS AND DESTINATION

Capt Lt. A/SSgt. Cpl. Pte or Women Children TOTAL
Arrived Sydney141846673230+
Arrived Hobart (3rd Company)12-3350564542148
Left in Sydney (1st Company)-21212528213183+

Where A/S is Assistant Surgeon; OR is rank and file, including Sergeants
and Corporals.

>From the letter of William Hunt, dated 20 March 1827 which is reproduced in section 13 below, it would appear that 12 children died on the voyage, plus one woman. It would appear that no men died on the voyage. While at least 10 children might have been born on the voyage.

(a) LIST OF THOSE PASSENGERS WHO REMAINED IN SYDNEY

Table 3

LIST OF THOSE PASSENGERS WHO REMAINED IN SYDNEY

Lieutenant William Bell
Lieutenant James Sweeney
Assistant Surgeon Andrew Gibson

Sergeants
J B Cunen
Wm Hopkinson
Corporal
Wm Chater
Privates
Thomas Boyd
Mich Duggan
John Elliot
Wm Finn
John Gillian
Henry Hart , . John Huling?
Thomas Holland
Thomas King
Edward Lees , . George Ladby?
James Mhan? , . David McKay , . John McLravask?, .  Samuel Murphy
David Navin , .  Samuel Norman
Patrick Quin
Thomas Richardson
Wm Scott
Richard Tine?
James Waller , . Thomas Webb , . Thomas Wood , . William Wood"
Wives
Eleanor Boyd, bc 1796
Children
Eleanor Boyd, bc 1817
James Errol Boyd, bc 1821
John Boyd, bc 1823
Thomas Boyd, b 24 April 1826 (at sea)
with possibly Sarah Ann Lyles/Boyd?, bc 1819
 
Royal Veterans 1st Company, which stayed in Sydney having arrived on that vessel.  The Assistant Surgeon was Andrew Gibson a Scot born c 1896, believed baptised 12th June 1796, states the following – “Andrew Gibson was born in Scotland in 1796, studied in Glasgow for 3 years and served at Waterloo as a Surgical Assistant with the British Army. After further studies in London he was commissioned as a Military Surgeon in 1826”. On arrival in Sydney he served as Assistant Surgeon to the Royal Veterans Companies (for a time on half pay- which assisted him in securing a land grant) and served the civil establishment as Assistant Surgeon with the Colonial Medical Department.

Dr. Gibson stated that his object in joining the Veteran Companies was with the “view of being enabled after service to permanently establish himself as a settler in this country”.  And the record shows he achieved this objective.

Dr Gibson was granted on 22nd February 1827 a licence to marry and he married Alice Faithfull at St James Church of England, in Sydney. [NSW BDM reference V1827125 11/1827  and V18274010 3B/1827]

Their Children recorded on BDM records were:

ALICE J [NSW BDM reference V827323 12/1827]
ALICE J [NSW BDM reference V18288516 1C/1828]
ANDREW F  [NSW BDM reference V1831773 17/1831]
SUSANNAH J [NSW BDM reference V1835851 19/1835]
FREDERICK F  [NSW BDM reference V18371108 21/1837] 
WILLIAM F  [NSW BDM reference V18381203 23A/1838] 
SEPTIMUS F  [NSW BDM reference V18401352 24A/1840]
 
Dr Gibson died on 22 September 1840 [NSW BDM reference V18401022 24A/1840] and by this time his property, named Tirranna [Goulburn & District Historical Society Note, 23 Jan 1985 -TIRRANNA is an aboriginal word, the preferred definition being “Swiftly running waters”] had increased by acquisition to near 5000 acres.
This included 6 of seven 100 acre lots near his main farm which had been granted to veterans of the NSW Veterans Company. A letter from Colonial Secretary dated 14th May 1829 stated that seven huts were to be erected at Goulburn Plains under the superintendence of Dr Gibson. He was also required to put the 7 veterans and their families in possession of their grants and have them sign Bonds detailing terms under which after 7 years occupancy and improvements they would receive deeds to their allotments. In 1838 six of the veterans sold them to Dr Gibson at what seems a fairly generous price.
 
The veterans were:

William Wichellow (Pvt. & replacing Sergt Taylor)  Lot No.  1

            Felix Brown    (Corporal)                                  Lot No.  2

            Richard Teece         (Pvt)                                Lot No.  3 (afterr 1838 apparently lived in Goulburn for a few years and had children born there)

            John McGeorge       (replacing Pvt. Thomas Wright)    Lot No.  4 (was from Staff Corps and retained his allotment to at least the 1880s)

            Christopher Wharmby   (Pvt)                          Lot No.  5

William Sugden           (Pvt)                            Lot No.  6

Thomas Harley         ( Pvt)                               Lot No.  7

Dr Gibson had achieved a small community comprised of the Veterans at the Veterans Flats in addition to the people employed on the Tirranna property and some of the Veterans were probably in his Company. He had been appointed JP and Magistrate at Goulburn and started a dynasty of Gibsons, and descendants still own the Tirranna property acquired by Dr Gibson.
 
References

Some information supplied by  Dennis Hill

References
Family Members, Military records  ,Pay rolls, Pay Musters, Cemetery Records, Church Records & General Muster Records, Mitchell Library ,Sydney Australia
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