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Project members are submitting family Gedcom outlines (Family Trees), which are being uploaded to each members page.

More than half of the project members have this information listed on their individual project member page

This provides site visitors as well as project members, with information on ancestor, locale and time lines.

For those project members who have not submitted them to me yet, PLEASE remember this is a crucial step in proven research.

Comparing the Results

Below are the comparisons for project members, listed by kit number.

Results are provided within tables by the number (12 or 25) of markers each member tested for. Results for 37 markers are forthcoming.

Genetic distance and distance to most recent common ancestor can be found between any two project members by plotting across and down until you reach the connecting "box" for the two.

If you have any questions on how to read the charts, please contact me through the link provided to the "US Administrator" at the left.

The International Society of Genetic Genealogy Has Provided The "Y" results for a few famous and ancient individuals. Some of our project members have proven to have very similar results with two of those ancient individuals whose results have been provided by the ISOGG. The results for Niall are also provided on FTDna.

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Colla Uais - Father of the Clans
A High King of Ireland, Colla seized Ulster and then took his followers to Scotland around 325AD. His descendants, Fergus, Loarn and Angus (sons of Erc) became the "founder" lines for the Scottish kingdom of Dalriada circa 465AD (Source article). Mark E. MacDonald, the National Historian for Clan Donald and Director of the DNA project, has deduced Colla's haplotype based on DNA results from many various Scottish clan DNA projects.

Niall of the Nine Hostages
Like Colla Uais, Niall Noigíallach, was a High King of Ireland, and the father of millions of descendants. He lived in the 5th century, and his estimated death date is 450/455 AD (Source). The Southern and Northern Uí Néill (meaning "descendants of Niall"; Uí pronounced 'Ee') dynasties produced the Irish High Kings for centuries and includes St. Columba, Niall's great-great grandson.

Since many of our project memers show STRONG results linking them with Celtic origins, I have included the information for Colla Uais and Niall with our results. Please bear in mind that the results mentioned above are NOT part of our project, nor do we have any claim to these reults. They are simply included as a matter of interest.

Gil Hurlbut, who provided suggestions for a more correct explaination of the haplogroups also suggested that I use the charts generated through the use of the "Y" utility tool, which is mentioned on our home page. I agree with Gil that the information is far more complete and have removed the old tables and replaced them with the new, more informative charts.

Unique Y-DNA12 marker strings

For the FULL Charts for 12 Marker Genetic Distance and Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor, Please click on link below

Ysearch Database Configuration - DNA Results Comparison
ID	D Y S 3 9 3	D Y S 3 9 0	D Y S 1 9 / 3 9 4	D Y S 3 9 1	D Y S 3 8 5 a		D Y S 3 8 5 b	D Y S 4 2 6		D Y S 3 8 8		D Y S 4 3 9	D Y S 3 8 9 - 1		D Y S 3 9 2	D Y S 3 8 9 - 2
modal	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	29
3W275	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		11	13		13	29
4V729	13	24	14	10	11		15	12		12		12	13		13	31
C4BMF	12	23	14	10	13		13	11		15		12	14		12	31
Colla	13	24	14	10	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	30
N10183	13	25	15	10	12		14	12		12		10	13		11	29
N27599	14	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		13	13		14	29
N38464	13	24	14	9	13		16	12		12		11	14		13	32
N50533	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
Naill	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
11775	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	30
11820	13	24	14	10	11		15	12		12		12	13		13	31
11931	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	30
11932	13	25	14	11	11		14	12		12		13	13		13	29
12748	14	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		13	13		14	29
12915	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	30
12968	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
13008	14	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		14	29
13250	13	24	14	11	12		14	12		12		11	13		13	29
14125	13	24	15	11	10		14	12		12		11	12		13	27
15046	14	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		15	29
15303	13	24	14	9	13		16	12		12		12	14		13	32
15739	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
15932	13	24	14	10	11		15	12		12		11	13		13	29
15933	13	24	13	10	16		20	11		12		11	13		10	32
17526	13	25	14	11	11		14	12		12		13	13		13	29
17679	13	23	14	10	11		13	12		12		12	14		13	30
18321	13	24	14	10	11		13	12		10		12	14		13	31
18643	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
18958	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	30
22826	13	24	14	10	11		16	12		12		12	13		13	31
23540	13	23	15	10	12		15	11		15		12	16		11	32
23630	13	24	14	10	11		15	12		12		12	13		13	31
24846	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		13	13		13	29
30042	12	22	15	10	13		15	11		14		11	12		11	28
34065	13	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		11	13		13	29
37611	14	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		13	13		14	29
39882	13	24	14	11	11		15	12		12		13	13		13	29
58190	13	24	14	9	13		15	12		12		12	14		13	32
74163	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		11	13		14	29
89835	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
90371	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
90892	13	23	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	29
93441	14	24	14	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		14	29
98500	12	23	14	10	13		13	11		15		12	13		12	30
N24453	13	25	15	11	11		14	12		12		13	14		13	30
81723	13	25	14	12	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
112418	13	22	14	10	13		14	11		14		10	13		11	29
118428	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
124814	13	25	15	11	11		14	12		12		12	13		13	29
132647	12	23	14	10	13		13	11		15		12	14		12	31
133586	13	25	14	11	11		13	12		12		12	13		14	29
133708	13	25	16	11	11		14	12		12		10	14		11	31
137173	14	24	16	10	15		16	11		13		11	13		12	29
137371	12	23	14	10	13		13	11		15		12	14		12	31
Distance from reference:						Zero			One		Two			Three+

12 Marker Genetic Distance and Time to Most Recent Ancestor in Generations

Y-DNA 25 Marker Comparisons

Ysearch Database Configuration - DNA Results Comparison
ID	D Y S 3 9 3	D Y S 3 9 0	D Y S 1 9 / 3 9 4	D Y S 3 9 1	D Y S 3 8 5 a	D Y S 3 8 5 b	D Y S 4 2 6	D Y S 3 8 8	D Y S 4 3 9	D Y S 3 8 9 - 1	D Y S 3 9 2		D Y S 3 8 9 - 2	D Y S 4 5 8	D Y S 4 5 9 a	D Y S 4 5 9 b		D Y S 4 5 5	D Y S 4 5 4	D Y S 4 4 7		D Y S 4 3 7	D Y S 4 4 8	D Y S 4 4 9		D Y S 4 6 4 a	D Y S 4 6 4 b	D Y S 4 6 4 c	D Y S 4 6 4 d
modal	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13		29	18	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	30		15	16	16	17
3W275	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	11	13	13		29	18	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	29		15	15	16	18
4V729	13	24	14	10	11	15	12	12	12	13	13		31	19	8	10		11	12	24		15	19	20		14	14	17	17
C4BMF	12	23	14	10	13	13	11	15	12	14	12		31	15	9	9		11	11	26		15	21	29		12	13	14	15
Colla	13	24	14	10	11	14	12	12	12	13	13		30	18	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	30		15	15	17	17
N27599	14	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	13	14		29	18	9	10		11	11	26		15	19	29		15	16	16	18
Naill	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	17	9	10		11	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
11775	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13		30	18	9	9		11	11	25		15	19	27		14	15	15	17
11820	13	24	14	10	11	15	12	12	12	13	13		31	20	8	10		11	12	24		15	19	30		14	14	17	17
11931	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13		30	18	9	9		11	11	25		15	18	27		14	15	15	17
11932	13	25	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	13	13		29	17	9	10		11	11	25		15	18	30		15	15	17	17
12748	14	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	13	14		29	18	9	10		11	11	26		15	19	29		15	15	16	16
12968	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	16	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
13008	14	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	14		29	18	9	10		11	11	26		15	19	29		15	16	17	18
13250	13	24	14	11	12	14	12	12	11	13	13		29	16	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	31		15	16	17	17
14125	13	24	15	11	10	14	12	12	11	12	13		27	16	9	10		11	11	25		15	17	31		15	15	16	18
15046	14	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	15		29	18	9	10		11	11	26		15	19	29		15	16	17	18
17679	13	23	14	10	11	13	12	12	12	14	13		30	17	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	30		15	15	15	17
18643	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	16	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
30042	12	22	15	10	13	15	11	14	11	12	11		28	15	8	9		9	11	24		16	20	29		12	14	15	15
39882	13	24	14	11	11	15	12	12	13	13	13		29	18	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	29		15	15	16	17
58190	13	24	14	9	13	15	12	12	12	14	13		32	18	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	30		14	16	17	18
74163	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	11	13	14		29	17	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	31		15	16	16	17
81723	13	25	14	12	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	16	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
89835	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	15	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
90371	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	16	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
93441	14	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	14		29	18	9	10		11	11	26		15	19	29		15	16	16	18
98500	12	23	14	10	13	13	11	15	12	13	12		30	15	9	9		11	11	26		15	21	34		12	13	14	15
112418	13	22	14	10	13	14	11	14	10	13	11		29	15	8	9		8	11	22		16	20	29		12	14	15	16
118428	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	17	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
124814	13	25	15	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13		29	17	9	10		11	11	25		15	19	29		14	15	17	17
132647	12	23	14	10	13	13	11	15	12	14	12		31	15	9	9		11	11	26		15	21	34		12	13	14	15
133586	13	25	14	11	11	13	12	12	12	13	14		29	16	9	10		12	11	25		15	18	30		15	16	16	17
Distance from reference:												Zero					One				Two				Three+

25 Marker Genetic Distance and Time to Most Recent Ancestor in Generations

Since there are fewer members with 37 markers at this time, the full charts fit on this page.

Genetic Distance
ID	m o d a l	1 1 7 7 5	1 1 8 2 0	1 1 9 3 1		1 1 9 3 2	1 2 7 4 8	1 3 0 0 8	1 4 1 2 5	3 0 0 4 2	3 9 8 8 2	5 8 1 9 0		7 4 1 6 3	8 1 7 2 3	8 9 8 3 5	9 0 3 7 1	9 3 4 4 1	9 8 5 0 0	1 1 2 4 1 8	1 1 8 4 2 8	1 2 4 8 1 4	1 3 2 6 4 7	1 3 3 5 8 6
modal	37	11	19	10		12	11	11	13	32	9	12		8	8	7	9	9	27	27	8	14	28	7
11775	11	37	19	3		14	14	14	15	29	11	15		18	18	18	17	13	24	26	17	14	25	18
11820	19	19	37	21		20	24	21	25	29	17	17		22	21	21	21	23	26	28	19	19	27	21
11931	10	3	21	37		13	13	13	16	29	13	16		16	16	15	15	14	25	26	17	13	26	15
11932	12	14	20	13		37	14	16	18	28	13	18		15	15	15	14	15	29	25	15	13	31	15
12748	11	14	24	13		14	37	4	17	28	10	17		16	17	16	16	3	29	24	18	15	30	16
13008	11	14	21	13		16	4	37	18	30	12	15		17	17	16	16	3	28	25	18	14	29	16
14125	13	15	25	16		18	17	18	37	29	14	15		16	18	19	20	16	30	29	19	18	30	18
30042	32	29	29	29		28	28	30	29	37	29	31		31	32	31	31	29	24	9	32	30	23	32
39882	9	11	17	13		13	10	12	14	29	37	12		14	16	15	16	11	28	27	15	12	29	15
58190	12	15	17	16		18	17	15	15	31	12	37		19	16	17	19	14	27	28	18	16	26	17
74163	8	18	22	16		15	16	17	16	31	14	19		37	7	5	6	16	28	28	4	16	29	5
81723	8	18	21	16		15	17	17	18	32	16	16		7	37	5	5	16	27	28	5	15	28	4
89835	7	18	21	15		15	16	16	19	31	15	17		5	5	37	4	16	26	27	3	14	27	1
90371	9	17	21	15		14	16	16	20	31	16	19		6	5	4	37	15	28	27	4	16	29	3
93441	9	13	23	14		15	3	3	16	29	11	14		16	16	16	15	37	28	24	17	15	29	16
98500	27	24	26	25		29	29	28	30	24	28	27		28	27	26	28	28	37	24	26	27	2	27
112418	27	26	28	26		25	24	25	29	9	27	28		28	28	27	27	24	24	37	28	28	25	28
118428	8	17	19	17		15	18	18	19	32	15	18		4	5	3	4	17	26	28	37	15	27	3
124814	14	14	19	13		13	15	14	18	30	12	16		16	15	14	16	15	27	28	15	37	28	14
132647	28	25	27	26		31	30	29	30	23	29	26		29	28	27	29	29	2	25	27	28	37	28
133586	7	18	21	15		15	16	16	18	32	15	17		5	4	1	3	16	27	28	3	14	28	37
Related					Probably Related								Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 12 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 25 Markers

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Generations)
ID	m o d a l	1 1 7 7 5	1 1 8 2 0		1 1 9 3 1	1 1 9 3 2	1 2 7 4 8	1 3 0 0 8		1 4 1 2 5	3 0 0 4 2	3 9 8 8 2	5 8 1 9 0	7 4 1 6 3		8 1 7 2 3	8 9 8 3 5	9 0 3 7 1	9 3 4 4 1	9 8 5 0 0	1 1 2 4 1 8	1 1 8 4 2 8	1 2 4 8 1 4	1 3 2 6 4 7	1 3 3 5 8 6
modal	37	60	121		54	67	60	60		74	335	48	67	43		43	37	48	48	218	218	43	81	235	37
11775	60	37	121		17	81	81	81		88	255	60	88	112		112	112	103	74	174	202	103	81	188	112
11820	121	121	37		140	130	174	140		188	255	103	103	151		140	140	140	162	202	235	121	121	218	140
11931	54	17	140		37	74	74	74		95	255	74	95	95		95	88	88	81	188	202	103	74	202	88
11932	67	81	130		74	37	81	95		112	235	74	112	88		88	88	81	88	255	188	88	74	304	88
12748	60	81	174		74	81	37	22		103	235	54	103	95		103	95	95	17	255	174	112	88	278	95
13008	60	81	140		74	95	22	37		112	278	67	88	103		103	95	95	17	235	188	112	81	255	95
14125	74	88	188		95	112	103	112		37	255	81	88	95		112	121	130	95	278	255	121	112	278	112
30042	335	255	255		255	235	235	278		255	37	255	304	304		335	304	304	255	174	48	335	278	162	335
39882	48	60	103		74	74	54	67		81	255	37	67	81		95	88	95	60	235	218	88	67	255	88
58190	67	88	103		95	112	103	88		88	304	67	37	121		95	103	121	81	218	235	112	95	202	103
74163	43	112	151		95	88	95	103		95	304	81	121	37		37	27	32	95	235	235	22	95	255	27
81723	43	112	140		95	88	103	103		112	335	95	95	37		37	27	27	95	218	235	27	88	235	22
89835	37	112	140		88	88	95	95		121	304	88	103	27		27	37	22	95	202	218	17	81	218	8
90371	48	103	140		88	81	95	95		130	304	95	121	32		27	22	37	88	235	218	22	95	255	17
93441	48	74	162		81	88	17	17		95	255	60	81	95		95	95	88	37	235	174	103	88	255	95
98500	218	174	202		188	255	255	235		278	174	235	218	235		218	202	235	235	37	174	202	218	12	218
112418	218	202	235		202	188	174	188		255	48	218	235	235		235	218	218	174	174	37	235	235	188	235
118428	43	103	121		103	88	112	112		121	335	88	112	22		27	17	22	103	202	235	37	88	218	17
124814	81	81	121		74	74	88	81		112	278	67	95	95		88	81	95	88	218	235	88	37	235	81
132647	235	188	218		202	304	278	255		278	162	255	202	255		235	218	255	255	12	188	218	235	37	235
133586	37	112	140		88	88	95	95		112	335	88	103	27		22	8	17	95	218	235	17	81	235	37
0-9 Generations				10-19 Generations					20-29 Generations						30-39 Generations

- Infinite allele mutation model is used - Average mutation rate varies: 0.0031 to 0.0031 rates derived by Doug McDonald from the Sorenson database - Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested - Probability is 50% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated

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